Level-D 767

CVA0014 · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:00 pm

I give up, I'm doing a checklist. There's just no way I can always remember to push all the proper buttons in the right order.

First rough draft:

LDS-767 CHECKLIST

Power:

Parking Brake ON
Battery ON
Standby Power AUTO
Left Main Bus ON

Overhead Light ON

Left Engine OFF
Right Engine OFF
Auto-Pilot OFF
Auto-Throttle OFF

Squawk Mode S

Ground Call - Connect External Power

Right Main Bus ON
APU START

(when External Power Connected)
External Power ON

Main Exit OPEN

Ground Call - Connect External Air

Left Utility Bus ON
Right Utility Bus ON

(when APU Started)
APU Generator ON

Ventilation:

Left Isolation Valve OFF
Center Isolation Valve OFF
Right Isolation Valve ON

Left Engine Bleed Valve OFF
Center Engine Bleed Valve OFF
Right Engine Bleed Valve OFF

Left AC Pack AUTO
Right AC Pack AUTO

Trim Air ON
Left Recirc Fan ON
Right Recirc Fan ON

Hydraulics:

Left Hydraulic Pump ON
Center 1 Hydraulic Pump ON
Center 2 Hydraulic Pump ON
Right Hydraulic Pump ON

Left Hydraulic Demand Pump AUTO
Center Hydraulic Demand Pump AUTO
Right Hydraulic Demand Pump AUTO

Engines:

Left AC Pack OFF
Right AC Pack OFF

Engine Start BOTH
Right Engine GND

(when Right N2 at 18min)
Right Fuel Cut-off RUN

(when Right Engine started)
Left Engine GND

(when Left N2 at 18min)
Left Fuel Cut-off RUN

(when Left Engine started)
Left AC Pack AUTO
Right AC Pack AUTO

Left Generator ON
Right Generator ON

Center Isolation Valve ON
Right Isolation Valve OFF

Left Engine Bleed Valve ON
APU Bleed Valve ON
Right Engine Bleed Valve ON

Ground Call - Disconnect External Power

(when External Power Disconnected)
Ground Call - Disconnect External Air

Heat:

Forward Cargo Heat ON
Aft Cargo Heat ON

Left Side Window Heat ON
Left Forward Window Heat ON
Right Forward Window Heat ON
Right Side Window Heat ON

Wing Anti-Ice as required
Left Engine Anti-Ice as required
Right Engine Anti-Ice as required

Pre-Flight:

Altimeter as required

Position Light ON

Red Anti-Collision Light ON
White Anti-Collision Light ON

Wing Light ON
Logo Light ON

Taxi:

No Smoking Sign ON
Seatbelts Sign ON

Main Exit CLOSE

Left Engine Electronic Control ON
Right Engine Electronic Control ON

Wiper As required
Parking Brake OFF

Ground Call - Push back

(when Push Back completed)
Ground Call - Disconnect Intercom

Taxi Light ON
Left Runway Turnoff Light ON
Right Runway Turnoff Light ON

Holding Short:

Left Yaw Damper ON
Right Yaw Damper ON

Squawk Mode C

Flaps as required
Speed Brakes OFF

Take-Off:

Nose Gear Landing Light ON
Left Wing Landing Light ON
Right Wing Landing Light ON

Taxi Light OFF
Left Runway Turnoff Light OFF
Right Runway Turnoff Light OFF

Red Anti-Collision Light OFF
White Anti-Collision Light OFF

10,000 ft:

Nose Gear Landing Light OFF
Left Wing Landing Light OFF
Right Wing Landing Light OFF

18,000 ft:

Altimeter 29.92

Cruise altitude:

No Smoking Sign OFF
Seatbelts Sign OFF

APU Generator OFF
APU OFF

Wing Anti-Ice ON
Left Engine Anti-Ice ON
Right Engine Anti-Ice ON

Panel Flood Light ON
Overhead Light OFF

Jebus · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:25 pm

Holy Hell I just got this plane and my jaw dropped... I am so god dam lost I don't even think I am in FSX any more... Any info for a newb on this plane? or do you know any good tutorials?!?!?

Rob Vanderkam · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:11 am

If it's the LDS 763 they have a few tutorials available. That's how I got started. Then after about 6 months I was pretty good at flying it. :;):

Jebus · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:27 am

I just noticed that there is no FSX lazy mode GPS NAV option I just realized I need to use an FMC for NAV routes... I DON"T EVEN know what an FMC is... god I better read the 200 page manual...

mattymsboi · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:56 am

Lol Kaleb you will learn to love the FMC, its your best freind in heavies

I suggest watching tutorials on youtube, it avoids pages of reading!

The FMC is actually easier and more usefull than FSX standard GPS, for example, you know if you pre-load a flightplan into the FSX GPS? What happens when ATC re-routes you and such, you have to cancel your whole flight plan and go waypoint to waypoint(or VOR or what have you) Where in the FMC its no problem, you just edit the active route and your all set!

If you want I can reccomend some videos I found helpful and Roberts checklist above is great so try using that and then do a step by step tutorial, watch it then re-watch it untill you turn blue, then ittle start to stick.

Warning though, programming the FMC adds to a more lengthy pre-flight preparation process. It takes me about 15-30mins to program the FMC alone in my PMDG 747, and Im quite good at it altought theres probably things I could do better as always

But once you take the time to program the FMC, it makes your life a hell of a lot easier in the air

Another thing about the FMC, its not like you set the FMC, and leave the cockpit to go get some coffee, no!!! (although I have done this before :blush: ) I like to think of the FMC(Flight Management Control system by the way is what it stands for) as your co-pilot, since we don't have the luxury of having one unless you manage to lure your children or wife into helping you. At the end of the day, you are the altimate authority, its you that disengages the FMC to fully takeover the aircraft when things get rough, and the FMC works for you, if you don't like what its doing, you can change it to suit a specific Departure or arrival or when ATC gives commands like "Climb to FL250, you can get the FMC to do that too, even if it haden't programmed to climb to Fl250 for another few miles...

I don't know why my responses always turn into lectures so bear with me :p

-Matt

CVA0014 · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:22 am

mattymsboi wrote:

... and Roberts checklist above is great so try using that and then do a step by step tutorial...

Don't forget that checklist is just a first rough draft, it's far from finished but it's a good start. Also, that checklist assumes a cold & dark start-up.

I have to compare it with the official LDS checklist to put things in their proper technical order, I put them where I felt comfortable with them.

About the FMC, the plane starts up in default mode. Just set your flaps and go for a spin. You don't need to set any of the complex systems for a ride around the town. I practiced touch and goes for a while, then I added one system at a time, making my flights more complex as I got comfy with the plane.

Look at the PDF manual for the LDS767, skim through it once, then go to your favorite airport and start at pages 150-169.

This section will guide you through basic prep, FMC setup, AFDS setup (auto-pilot), engine start, take-off and landing. You can go through this section a zillion times, it has the most for the total newbie.

Then there's 73-116, this goes into much more detail. I have to read the rest later, but I still have a bit to do as it is.

I didn't print the entire manual, I just printed those sections one at a time and poured through them.

If you have a problem, check the LDS forums, there's tons of good stuff in there. The LDS767 has been around for a while and any problem we encounter has already been worked over by someone else.

The only problem I have is with the Position and Red/white Collision lights not showing up. I tried everything I found in the forum but still nothing:

- removed CVA skin and reinstalled LDS-767, still nothing.
- DX10 disabled.
- tried windowed mode and fullscreen.
- used recommended resolution for LDS767.
- tried in pitch dark, nothing.
- and one more thing I can't remember.

Besides that the plane is a beauty.

Jebus · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:49 pm

Thanks for the great start up info but I am just wondering how did you set it up to preform a cold / dark start up I don't see it in any of the options...

Edit I may also wait until I get my new video card back so I can use both my monitors, Trying to fly this thing with one monitor is way to hard on my part...

mattymsboi · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:50 pm

Is there a big difference between the Wilco and LDS 767?

Jebus · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:34 pm

I am 100% sure that Wilco sells the LDS 767 I don't believe they have they own.

Cal Jordan (CVA371) · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:39 pm

I just purchased a new Gateway FX gaming computer, running an Intel Core i7 processor 12 Gb ram and a Nvidia Geforce GTX 260 with 2 gigs of ram on it, 1 Tb hard drive, and Windows 7. FS X runs very good on it 30 to 40 FPS with everything maxed out except cars and boats.
FS9 is incredible, max right out with Vancouver +1, and a bunch of other scenery, PMDGs work good in both versions but I have a problem with Level D 767, everything is fine until I click the lights on (in the main panel) and it freezes everything, I have to shut down the computer by clicking the on off switch. has anyone else had this type of problem or knows of a fix? I tried the Level D forums but nothing like this. all other aircraft work great.

Rob Vanderkam · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:23 pm

Jebus wrote:

I am 100% sure that Wilco sells the LDS 767 I don't believe they have they own.

LDS is Level D from Flight 1, not Wilco.

Rob Vanderkam · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:25 pm

Cal Jordan (CVA371) wrote:

I just purchased a new Gateway FX gaming computer, running an Intel Core i7 processor 12 Gb ram and a Nvidia Geforce GTX 260 with 2 gigs of ram on it, 1 Tb hard drive, and Windows 7. FS X runs very good on it 30 to 40 FPS with everything maxed out except cars and boats.
FS9 is incredible, max right out with Vancouver +1, and a bunch of other scenery, PMDGs work good in both versions but I have a problem with Level D 767, everything is fine until I click the lights on (in the main panel) and it freezes everything, I have to shut down the computer by clicking the on off switch. has anyone else had this type of problem or knows of a fix? I tried the Level D forums but nothing like this. all other aircraft work great.

Are the FSX and FS9 version of the LDS767 installed and licensed seperately? Maybe they conflict. no idea otherwise.

CVA0014 · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:39 am

Cal Jordan (CVA371) wrote:

...
FS9 is incredible, max right out with Vancouver +1, and a bunch of other scenery, PMDGs work good in both versions but I have a problem with Level D 767, everything is fine until I click the lights on (in the main panel) and it freezes everything, I have to shut down the computer by clicking the on off switch. has anyone else had this type of problem or knows of a fix? I tried the Level D forums but nothing like this. all other aircraft work great.

You have both versions of the LDS-767? I thought you had to buy one version for FS9 and one for FS-X.

CVA0014 · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:44 am

Jebus wrote:

Thanks for the great start up info but I am just wondering how did you set it up to preform a cold / dark start up I don't see it in any of the options...

Edit I may also wait until I get my new video card back so I can use both my monitors, Trying to fly this thing with one monitor is way to hard on my part...

Kaleb, the trick is to let FS-X start up the LDS-767. then do a shut-down of all systems and then save your flight.

Then go on that top menu bar, click Add-Ons, B767 Specific and Export Current Panel Data to a Flight. This last step is important or else FS-X gets lost when you reload the flight later.

So when you want to start cold & dark, Load that flight and Import the panel data.

TADAA!! cold & dark cockpit.

Cal Jordan (CVA371) · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:05 am

I have just the FS9 version of the D and running it in FS9 and thats where the problems are. I started having problems when I installed it in Windows 7 I was just commenting how FSX work on the new computer.

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