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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:04 pm 
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Just noticed that there appears to be a dearth of flights from western Canada to Ottawa.

Is that because we don't like Ottawa or is it due to the danger of colliding with all the gliders taking advantage of the extreme lift provided by all the hot air? ??? :D



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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:09 pm 
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I think it is more in line that we have both major hubs in CYUL and CYYZ and there is no need for flights out of Ottawa...

And if you notice there are flights out of Ottawa to Montreal and CYYZ so that you can connect to the major hubs to continue your west bound flights.



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Can't be the gliders. They are south because the air's even hotter in Washington DC!



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 Post subject: Re: Ottawa - No flights
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:01 am 
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Iqaluit CYFB could use some flights to Ottawa. RW First Air and Canadian North run a route like
CYOW, CYFB, CYRT, CYZF.

Sorry, I just can't resist drumming up the Arctic as I live up here.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:10 pm 
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Hi Tim, Welcome to CVA!

I saw you on the live map yesterday (or Sunday?) and noticed that you were a very new member. I don't recall ever seeing anyone join up and fly and log a flight on practically the same day!

So you weren't flying up north to take advantage of the quiet northern flying environment for your first flight?

Your points are good and although I'm not involved in making routes, I'm sure our guys will keep it in mind as they casually work up new routes. Yes, I said casually. 8) We are a group that is dedicated to the long term and all have day jobs etc so we try very hard to not get burned out*. That's why we've lasted all these years.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:51 pm 
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...Sorry, I just can't resist drumming up the Arctic as I live up here.



I added those on my to-do list, class 1 out of Ottawa.

If you want more class 1 Northern destinations from Ottawa, post them here.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:32 pm 
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Ottawa to Iqualuit is a long haul. I've flown it (and enjoyed a meal of caribou on the way) in something like a 767. I'll check it out and provide more info.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:15 pm 
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Rob Vanderkam wrote:
Ottawa to Iqualuit is a long haul. I've flown it (and enjoyed a meal of caribou on the way) in something like a 767. I'll check it out and provide more info.



Well the route is flown with a 737-200. In Fs I use the 737-200 and 737-800. Now a Cargo 767 from first Air does use the run on occasion. Nothing up here jet wise beats the 737 and it's love of the arctic.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:16 am 
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Right.

http://flightaware.com/live/findflight?origin=CYOW&originName=&destination=CYFB&destinationName=

I think the aircraft we were in was a 767 because it was a transport. The back half was a cargo load and the rest of it was for a few rows of Px. We were well treated on that flight, but it was just luck as we had no idea what we had booked - we used points about a year in advance to buy the tickets.



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 Post subject: Re: Ottawa - No flights
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:24 am 
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And Robert, the FP is....DIRECT. As it said in FlightAware. Cause there is no Jetway that goes thataway...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:40 am 
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Rob Vanderkam wrote:
And Robert, the FP is....DIRECT. As it said in FlightAware. Cause there is no Jetway that goes thataway...



Actually there is:

CYOW CYFB - YOW N428C YMT J482 YFM J479 VP J561 YFB


There's a bug in v8 of FSC, airways disappear at certain zoom levels. Sometimes you have to putz around to find one, and then try to find a label for it.

I'm sorry, but I can't put a flight down as Direct, unless it's a short class 1 hop. I know real aviation is doing that now, but I think it sucks when it comes to simming. If we're to simulate EVERYTHING they do, we might as well take-off, do a big circle and land; it'll be the same thing.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:52 am 
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Hey Tim,
I spent seven months in Iqaluit in 1973 when it was called Frobisher Bay. I was 18 then and got a job working for the Frobisher Inn. I remember flying in to the airport on an L1011 and being surprised to see a frozen wrecked fuselage of a fairly large plane sitting near the end of a runway. Did they ever drag that away. I have really fond memories of my days there :D



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:11 pm 
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CVA0014 wrote:
Rob Vanderkam wrote:
And Robert, the FP is....DIRECT. As it said in FlightAware. Cause there is no Jetway that goes thataway...

Actually there is:
CYOW CYFB - YOW N428C YMT J482 YFM J479 VP J561 YFB
There's a bug in v8 of FSC, airways disappear at certain zoom levels.


right! I see that now. And I'm using FSC9 but jetways still flash on and off depending on what the extent and zoom level of the window.

EDIT - it's plainly visible in my first image above too! :shock:

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I'm starting to use FMC regularly. At some point I'll have to pay for it, even though I can't imagine flying with it.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:03 pm 
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Rob Vanderkam wrote:
right! I see that now. And I'm using FSC9 but jetways still flash on and off depending on what the extent and zoom level of the window.
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I'm starting to use FMC regularly. At some point I'll have to pay for it, even though I can't imagine flying with it.



Oh great, then I guess it's not much use I upgrade then.

I love FMC, I just have problems enterring victors and jetways, they are often rejected (probably not "exactly" over waypoints).



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:18 pm 
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yeah, are you referring to the FERRY waypoint on J500 outside of YVR? That was wierd. But perhaps a coincidence. Are you saying you see it often?

Come to think of it, it happens to me too once in a while that CVA (your FMC routes) routes will not work using the airways, so I just stick to the waypoints in those cases. Maybe that is what's going on....

I'm going to look into this more. I enjoy working on routes..... 8)



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