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CVA0014
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:49 am |
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:39 am Posts: 1908 Location: Up here wishing I was down there.
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Awe crap, figures, I wrote that backwards, I meant:
"I'm not exactly sure how we're supposed to make a successful approach and then make a missed approach"
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CVA0014
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:53 am |
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:39 am Posts: 1908 Location: Up here wishing I was down there.
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CVA9214 wrote: The missed approach is calculated in flight planning. The time or fuel burn will vary depending on the airport. Some airports are very busy and a missed approach can say be a 25 minute turn around to land again and at a smaller field this can be 10 minutes. For this exercise I will expect you to have 45 minutes of cruise fuel (30 minutes plus 15 minutes missed app) I hope this makes sense, Tomorrow I will post some early stats.
Ok, so the point is to just come in for a full stop and have enough fuel to do a missed approach (and maybe land at an alternate if that is the case) plus 30 minutes of fuel?
I thought we were supposed to do the missed approach in the flight...
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CVA0014
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:12 am |
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:39 am Posts: 1908 Location: Up here wishing I was down there.
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I must have had summer in the FS-X date to see some scenery in an offline flight.
I know why my ascent is screwed up, I had 190 instead of 19000 in FSacars.
How do we properly insert a comment in FSacars? Right now I have /V+RMK/. How would I add FS-X in there?
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Vanda
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:13 am |
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:50 am Posts: 30 Location: Queenstown, NZ
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Run Completed FS9 used
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CVA9214
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:01 pm |
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Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:03 am Posts: 1687 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Vanda wrote: Run Completed FS9 used George I am sorry to say you will have to try this flight again. this is all I have in your FSACARS log 2009/10/11 06:24:00] Flight IATA:FLIGHT ed: 121 Knots Altitude 501 ft 07:09 TouchDown:Rate -355 ft/min Speed: 124 Knots 07:09 Land 07:09 Wind:000@000 Knots 07:09 Heading: 123 07:09 Flight Duration: 00:45 07:09 Landing Weight: 16556 Kg 07:09 POS N40 38 57 W075 26 17 07:10 Parking brakes on 07:10 Block to Block Duration: 00:46 07:10 Final Fuel: 44 Kg 07:10 Spent Fuel: 822 Kg 07:10 Flight Length: 260 NM 07:10 TOD Land Length: 101 NM
Looks like you closed your log 2 minutes after starting it. ???
Edited By CVA9214 on 1255262512
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mattymsboi
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:24 pm |
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:34 am Posts: 486 Location: Canada
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I completed my run yesterday, used FSX, Not sure if I was supposed to include that in the log so im letting you know here xD
I think im probably disqualified, I was quite low on fuel when I touched down :blush:
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CVA9214
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:34 pm |
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Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:03 am Posts: 1687 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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mattymsboi wrote: I think im probably disqualified, I was quite low on fuel when I touched down :blush:
I am affraid so you only had 13 minutes of fuel left in your tanks. :ghostface:
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mattymsboi
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:54 am |
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:34 am Posts: 486 Location: Canada
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CVA9214 wrote: mattymsboi wrote: I think im probably disqualified, I was quite low on fuel when I touched down :blush: I am affraid so you only had 13 minutes of fuel left in your tanks. :ghostface:
Dam! Sorry about that, I thought I woulda had plenty left over, its been a while since I fuel calculated for the ERJ, I'll be sure to try again!
*smacks FSX's fuel calculator* (I always add more fuel to the estimate but still! :devil: )
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CVA0014
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:06 am |
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:39 am Posts: 1908 Location: Up here wishing I was down there.
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CVA9214 wrote: ... Randy is in the lead with a fuel burn of 34.43 Lbs per minute. ...
Last night while talking with other pilots during the multi, I realized that not everyone understood the purpose of this challenge the same way.
A) Are we supposed to land with the minimum fuel required to fly the extra 45 minutes?
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B) Are we supposed to have the best fuel economy during the flight and still remain 'legal'?
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CVA0014
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:15 am |
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:39 am Posts: 1908 Location: Up here wishing I was down there.
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Why do we have 4 different zero fuel weight? If we're all using default cargo, shouldn't we all be the same?
36,282 36,285 36,359 36,360
The only difference I could imagine is between FS-X and FS9, but that would account for only 2 different weights at the most.
EDIT: Ok, I just noticed something with the passengers. The rules state a total of 46 but FSacars put in 41 in a test just now. I was told once never to change FSacars information (only flight level, alternate, route, etc), are we supposed to override the PAX for this challenge?
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CVA0014
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:42 am |
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:39 am Posts: 1908 Location: Up here wishing I was down there.
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There was a hiccup in flight 2009/10/12 03:06:00 just now. I had a false TOC at 3:18 (along with a TOD), can the log be corrected please so it will not make the calculations go bad?
03:18 TOC 03:18 Fuel Weight: 1432 Kg 03:19 TOD 03:19 Fuel Weight: 1429 Kg 03:19 TOC 03:19 Fuel Weight: 1420 Kg 03:21 Wind:300@001 Knots Heading: 133 Ground Speed: 344 Knots Altitude 19402 ft 03:36 Wind:305@000 Knots Heading: 134Ground Speed: 344 Knots Altitude 19376 ft 03:48 TOD 03:48 Fuel Weight: 977 Kg
And what's the correct syntax to add a comment? This was with FS-X but the comment did not register in the log.
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CVA9214
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:15 am |
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CVA0014 wrote: CVA9214 wrote: ... Randy is in the lead with a fuel burn of 34.43 Lbs per minute. ... Last night while talking with other pilots during the multi, I realized that not everyone understood the purpose of this challenge the same way. A) Are we supposed to land with the minimum fuel required to fly the extra 45 minutes? or B) Are we supposed to have the best fuel economy during the flight and still remain 'legal'?
The objetive is.... best fuel economy
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CVA9214
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:19 am |
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CVA0014 wrote: Why do we have 4 different zero fuel weight? If we're all using default cargo, shouldn't we all be the same?
36,282 36,285 36,359 36,360
The only difference I could imagine is between FS-X and FS9, but that would account for only 2 different weights at the most.
EDIT: Ok, I just noticed something with the passengers. The rules state a total of 46 but FSacars put in 41 in a test just now. I was told once never to change FSacars information (only flight level, alternate, route, etc), are we supposed to override the PAX for this challenge?
This I do not know why. In the instruction I laid out the correct aicraft load config. Because there is such a small difference I passed it as a go for the submition.
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Vanda
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:54 am |
Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:50 am Posts: 30 Location: Queenstown, NZ
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CVA9214 wrote: Vanda wrote: Run Completed FS9 used George I am sorry to say you will have to try this flight again. this is all I have in your FSACARS log 2009/10/11 06:24:00] Flight IATA:FLIGHT ed: 121 Knots Altitude 501 ft 07:09 TouchDown:Rate -355 ft/min Speed: 124 Knots 07:09 Land 07:09 Wind:000@000 Knots 07:09 Heading: 123 07:09 Flight Duration: 00:45 07:09 Landing Weight: 16556 Kg 07:09 POS N40 38 57 W075 26 17 07:10 Parking brakes on 07:10 Block to Block Duration: 00:46 07:10 Final Fuel: 44 Kg 07:10 Spent Fuel: 822 Kg 07:10 Flight Length: 260 NM 07:10 TOD Land Length: 101 NM Looks like you closed your log 2 minutes after starting it. ???
Damn those gremlins. No problem, I'll just do it again, its only 45mins or so to do
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Somewhere in the world it is always "beer o'clock"!
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